DJ (Cranston,RI): Hey Bill,thanks for making work go by a little faster...anyway, if you were Theo Epstein would you trade Buckholtz,Lester and Coco for Santana?I am quite confident that if Theo Epstein called up Bill Smith and offered this package for Santana, Smith would accept it immediately. I have not seen any scenario in which the Twins get Lester and Buchholz. He continues:
Bill Simmons: (1:26 PM ET ) In a heartbeat. That's not going to be nearly enough though.
Bill Simmons: (1:52 PM ET ) I actually thought Buster made a great point this week about the value of Danny Haren compared to Johan - not only would he cost less to get, but he's locked into a reasonable contract for the next 3 years (something like $17m total) and he's a 220-IP horse. Maybe he doesn't have the ceiling that Johan has, but he'd be the Yanks's No. 1 starter. Actually, it almost makes more sense for the Twins to do a 3-way where they give up Johan but get Haren as part of the haul back, then Oakland gets a piece of the prospects. For instance, let's say they get Haren and Cano, the A's get Kennedy, Hughes and Cabrera and the Yanks get Johan... wouldn't that work for everybody?No. The Yankees do not make this trade, Bill. They would be giving up Robinson Cano, Ian Kennedy, Phillip Hughes, and Melky Cabrera for Johan Santana. This would be completely insane. Brian Cashman would absolutely never even consider doing this.
Bill Simmons: (2:14 PM ET ) Here's the thing: if they landed Johan without touching anyone from the TOP FIFTEEN from last year's team, don't you have to do it? It's a no-brainer in my mind, although I'm not sure it would be a good trade for the sports of baseball as a whole.This is really a fantastic way to look at this situation. When looking towards the future, it's important that Clay Buchholz and Jon Lester weren't even in the "TOP FIFTEEN" on this year's team. Extremely relevant.
And this trade would be fantastic for the "sports of baseball as a whole", specifically the Twins, Yankees, Indians, and Angels.
And then there's this, from ESPN:
"The Red Sox and Twins are discussing the framework of a Johan Santana deal that would have Boston sending four players to Minnesota in return for the two-time Cy Young Award winner, including center fielder Coco Crisp, pitcher Jon Lester and minor-league shortstop Jed Lowrie, the trio that would anchor the deal."Hmm...something tells me that this is less than the Buchholz/Lester/Crisp trade that Simmons thought wouldn't be "nearly enough". Also, another slight detail:
"Red Sox prospects Clay Buchholz and Jacoby Ellsbury are considered untouchables in the Red Sox-Twins negotiations; similarly, the Yankees have indicated to others that they will not trade second baseman Robinson Cano or pitcher Joba Chamberlain."Oops.